Imagine losing a wanted pregnancy due to PPROM and having to drive around three states to find care. That's Mylissa Farmer's story. The very worst part?
In Kansas, having fled Missouri,
"She called a local politician for help. He sent her to a false-front abortion clinic, the kind of place that exists to convince women not to have abortions after luring them in with misleading advertisements."
"She finally got the health care she needed in Illinois, at an abortion clinic. It was a two-day race across state lines to save her life."
And for people who think, well that's behind her, no:
"She had lost her pregnancy, her home, her health insurance and her fertility in this long, emotional and legal fight. She had long conversations with her husband about whether she should go public with her story. With the rally behind her, she was glad she had come to Washington."
If you are considering an abortion ban after X weeks, this isn’t good enough. Pregnancy complications can happen at any time. Some fetal development (or lack thereof, like the brain) doesn’t happen until the third trimester. Such anomalies cannot be tested for until late in pregnancy, long after the typical X week ban expires.
A woman should never be denied medical care, even an abortion, just because she is in her third trimester.
Abortion on demand and without apology. I trust women to make their own reproductive health care decisions. Women need to be respected and trusted. Placing bounties (like SB 8 in TX) on people who support pregnant women is just the opposite.
Women don’t need to be treated like infants. We don’t need medically unnecessary tests. We don’t need scripts read to us with dubious information — don’t tell me to consider adoption when my fetus is dying, no one will adopt a dead fetus! We don’t need doctors with hospital admitting privileges or clinics setup as expensive medi-surge centers. We don’t need all the other nonsense the extremists have dreamed up in the (false) claim of protecting women.
I submit woman, especially in states controlled by Republicans, never really enjoyed the freedoms of Roe and the protection of Casey (“no undue burden”). Republican law makers continuously wrote laws to chip, chip, chip away at women’s reproductive rights. They never found any burden too great to impose on a pregnant woman. They knew what they were doing and they didn’t care that their laws would be overturned (when Roe was still enforce). They did it anyway. For decades.
Justice Alito said women have the power to vote. He was right about that (and wrong about most of the rest). Alito showed callous disregard for the lives of all women.
And Republicans cheered. They are still cheering.
Republicans have had many opportunities to fix the mess they created. They refuse to fix it. (Arizona Republicans, I’m looking at you.)
Trump appointed people to the SC whose mission is was to overturn Roe V Wade. Well, mission accomplished. The consequences are lethal for women. TRUMP. DID. THIS.
We must vote out of office all the Republicans who deny women the right to control their own bodies.
In November, I will be voting for Joe Biden and Democrats, up and down the ballot, who will back him to support women’s reproductive rights.
The anti-abortion crowd claim they are speaking for the “voiceless unborn” which may sound like a laudable goal, at first.
Upon closer inspection, in practice, the same laws this group supports prohibit an abortion even for women whose fetus is dead or dying. What is the point of forcing a woman to stay pregnant when the child won’t survive and the pregnancy itself may kill her? IMO, it is cruel and inhumane.
The so-called exceptions to abortion bans are worthless when trained medical professionals are threatened with prison, loss of license, and legal troubles if they dare practice standard medicine and save the woman’s life without a prolonged delay. I don’t blame the doctors. I blame the lawmakers. What are they thinking? If the women suffer, risk permanent impairment, or die, well, too bad. Oops!
I guess for the “pro-life” crowd, women are like buses—if this one passes, there are more to come.
Which brings me to my point. As we have seen, claiming you are “pro-life” really means “Let the women die.”
Any woman who wants to end her pregnancy will do so as soon as she is able. No woman voluntarily stays pregnant for months on end unless she wants to be pregnant.
We trust women to raise children. We must trust women to decide when, and if, to have children.
Abortion on demand and without apology. Anything else is cruel and inhumane for women.
One thing I was unaware of: in hospitals, miscarriages are called abortions. However, they are spontaneous rather than elective. Sooooo....do the statistics regarding abortion in the US also include women who have spontaneous ones? Do the statistics include the women who have them for life-saving reasons and/or fatal fetal abnormalities? I tried to find some data, but had no luck. (Granted, I'm at work and not at liberty to go down a rabbit-hole search.)
The reason I want to know this is because I think many people believe abortions are purely elective. I've seen friends on FB comment that "abortion should not be used as contraception."
Has anyone even tried to imagine the number of women's lives that have been derailed since these pro-forced births laws have been in place? Men are so in fear of women having autonomy. They don't like the competition.
Republican women who are skeptical about the Republican stance on abortion are defenseless in the face of the narrative of "unborn children". The Republicans are effectively covering the whole "cruelty to women" narrative pretty well in their own minds, even though Republican women can see through it as well as anyone.
But the whole "unborn children" narrative has nobody taking it on. And the Democrats are always talking the "it's all bout the children" narrative and get all trembly in the knees against the "unborn babies" narrative. The "cruelty to women" narrative isn't going to turn Republican women to Biden when their Republican overlords remind them that Biden supports killing babies and they have nothing to retort that.
I get the focus being on Republican women, but implicit in that is that Republican men won't care, and, more broadly, that we shouldn't expect men to care what happens to women. Again, I get it, but that doesn't really make it any less upsetting. My half of the population regularly appalls me, but I don't like us being let off the hook.
I think a way to pierce the media bubbles of women is to start bringing the message to old school television. One of the largest consistent groups that vote at high rates are people over 65. The next rung down age wise is less but still a significant number. They still watch morning talk shows. Not the late ones, those are all considered liberal media now. But not so much Kelly Ripa. They also are more likely to watch a dateline or a CBS this morning on the weekends. Those outlets usually don’t touch this issue or at least they didn’t. Get those women’s stories on a talk show tour and it could help.
I am no strategist. I just know who votes because of my job involves teaching government and civics. I also know that although my sister in law watches Fox, she also will watch the View.
Jessica. Did the researcher happen to break down the data. I wonder if any of this us reaching people outside of Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston? Doubtful but .maybe this could provide a way to.approach people out here in the hinterlands.
"In other words: the nightmare stories of post-Roe America are not reaching anti-abortion Republican women. Presumably, their media filter bubble is shielding them. "
The good news side of this could be that when Republican women learn what these abortion bans mean, they become pro-choice women who hopefully will vote against Republicans.
My mom is (unfortunately) a Republican woman in Florida who will literally never ever NOT vote conservative. But she's also pro-choice and I talked to her over the winter about the (then-possible, now real) ballot measure and she will definitely vote for it. Now, I also need her to talk to her (insufferable) Republican women friends and get them to vote for it as well. My father will also likely vote for it. But as long as they both exist on the earth, they will never vote blue. (Also please add black shirts. I never grew out of my punk rock/goth phase and can't wear any of the shirts offered 🤣🤣.)
This is why I created a website that is just aggregating stories on the impacts of these bans on actual real people w uteruses. I'm not a professional like Jessica, but had to create it for my sanity. And I use it to share w people when I talk to them. I find it gets them out of all the hypotheticals. It's NoAbortionBans.com if anyone wants to use it. Again - just my little efforts.
Imagine losing a wanted pregnancy due to PPROM and having to drive around three states to find care. That's Mylissa Farmer's story. The very worst part?
In Kansas, having fled Missouri,
"She called a local politician for help. He sent her to a false-front abortion clinic, the kind of place that exists to convince women not to have abortions after luring them in with misleading advertisements."
"She finally got the health care she needed in Illinois, at an abortion clinic. It was a two-day race across state lines to save her life."
And for people who think, well that's behind her, no:
"She had lost her pregnancy, her home, her health insurance and her fertility in this long, emotional and legal fight. She had long conversations with her husband about whether she should go public with her story. With the rally behind her, she was glad she had come to Washington."
No paywall: https://wapo.st/3Qj8bro
If you are considering an abortion ban after X weeks, this isn’t good enough. Pregnancy complications can happen at any time. Some fetal development (or lack thereof, like the brain) doesn’t happen until the third trimester. Such anomalies cannot be tested for until late in pregnancy, long after the typical X week ban expires.
A woman should never be denied medical care, even an abortion, just because she is in her third trimester.
Abortion on demand and without apology. I trust women to make their own reproductive health care decisions. Women need to be respected and trusted. Placing bounties (like SB 8 in TX) on people who support pregnant women is just the opposite.
Women don’t need to be treated like infants. We don’t need medically unnecessary tests. We don’t need scripts read to us with dubious information — don’t tell me to consider adoption when my fetus is dying, no one will adopt a dead fetus! We don’t need doctors with hospital admitting privileges or clinics setup as expensive medi-surge centers. We don’t need all the other nonsense the extremists have dreamed up in the (false) claim of protecting women.
I submit woman, especially in states controlled by Republicans, never really enjoyed the freedoms of Roe and the protection of Casey (“no undue burden”). Republican law makers continuously wrote laws to chip, chip, chip away at women’s reproductive rights. They never found any burden too great to impose on a pregnant woman. They knew what they were doing and they didn’t care that their laws would be overturned (when Roe was still enforce). They did it anyway. For decades.
Justice Alito said women have the power to vote. He was right about that (and wrong about most of the rest). Alito showed callous disregard for the lives of all women.
And Republicans cheered. They are still cheering.
Republicans have had many opportunities to fix the mess they created. They refuse to fix it. (Arizona Republicans, I’m looking at you.)
Trump appointed people to the SC whose mission is was to overturn Roe V Wade. Well, mission accomplished. The consequences are lethal for women. TRUMP. DID. THIS.
We must vote out of office all the Republicans who deny women the right to control their own bodies.
In November, I will be voting for Joe Biden and Democrats, up and down the ballot, who will back him to support women’s reproductive rights.
Listen to Hillary at least now if you didn't before. Interview w/ Marc Elias...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UpNrRNL8Gw
The anti-abortion crowd claim they are speaking for the “voiceless unborn” which may sound like a laudable goal, at first.
Upon closer inspection, in practice, the same laws this group supports prohibit an abortion even for women whose fetus is dead or dying. What is the point of forcing a woman to stay pregnant when the child won’t survive and the pregnancy itself may kill her? IMO, it is cruel and inhumane.
The so-called exceptions to abortion bans are worthless when trained medical professionals are threatened with prison, loss of license, and legal troubles if they dare practice standard medicine and save the woman’s life without a prolonged delay. I don’t blame the doctors. I blame the lawmakers. What are they thinking? If the women suffer, risk permanent impairment, or die, well, too bad. Oops!
I guess for the “pro-life” crowd, women are like buses—if this one passes, there are more to come.
Which brings me to my point. As we have seen, claiming you are “pro-life” really means “Let the women die.”
Any woman who wants to end her pregnancy will do so as soon as she is able. No woman voluntarily stays pregnant for months on end unless she wants to be pregnant.
We trust women to raise children. We must trust women to decide when, and if, to have children.
Abortion on demand and without apology. Anything else is cruel and inhumane for women.
One thing I was unaware of: in hospitals, miscarriages are called abortions. However, they are spontaneous rather than elective. Sooooo....do the statistics regarding abortion in the US also include women who have spontaneous ones? Do the statistics include the women who have them for life-saving reasons and/or fatal fetal abnormalities? I tried to find some data, but had no luck. (Granted, I'm at work and not at liberty to go down a rabbit-hole search.)
The reason I want to know this is because I think many people believe abortions are purely elective. I've seen friends on FB comment that "abortion should not be used as contraception."
I love my Abortion 2024 t-shirt. It’s such a pretty shade of yellow and super comfortable! I wear it all the time these days!
Has anyone even tried to imagine the number of women's lives that have been derailed since these pro-forced births laws have been in place? Men are so in fear of women having autonomy. They don't like the competition.
Republican women who are skeptical about the Republican stance on abortion are defenseless in the face of the narrative of "unborn children". The Republicans are effectively covering the whole "cruelty to women" narrative pretty well in their own minds, even though Republican women can see through it as well as anyone.
But the whole "unborn children" narrative has nobody taking it on. And the Democrats are always talking the "it's all bout the children" narrative and get all trembly in the knees against the "unborn babies" narrative. The "cruelty to women" narrative isn't going to turn Republican women to Biden when their Republican overlords remind them that Biden supports killing babies and they have nothing to retort that.
I get the focus being on Republican women, but implicit in that is that Republican men won't care, and, more broadly, that we shouldn't expect men to care what happens to women. Again, I get it, but that doesn't really make it any less upsetting. My half of the population regularly appalls me, but I don't like us being let off the hook.
I think a way to pierce the media bubbles of women is to start bringing the message to old school television. One of the largest consistent groups that vote at high rates are people over 65. The next rung down age wise is less but still a significant number. They still watch morning talk shows. Not the late ones, those are all considered liberal media now. But not so much Kelly Ripa. They also are more likely to watch a dateline or a CBS this morning on the weekends. Those outlets usually don’t touch this issue or at least they didn’t. Get those women’s stories on a talk show tour and it could help.
I am no strategist. I just know who votes because of my job involves teaching government and civics. I also know that although my sister in law watches Fox, she also will watch the View.
Reak down the data by state I meant to say.
Jessica. Did the researcher happen to break down the data. I wonder if any of this us reaching people outside of Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston? Doubtful but .maybe this could provide a way to.approach people out here in the hinterlands.
Wait until these Republican women find out they’re working on taking away contraceptives.
"In other words: the nightmare stories of post-Roe America are not reaching anti-abortion Republican women. Presumably, their media filter bubble is shielding them. "
The good news side of this could be that when Republican women learn what these abortion bans mean, they become pro-choice women who hopefully will vote against Republicans.
My mom is (unfortunately) a Republican woman in Florida who will literally never ever NOT vote conservative. But she's also pro-choice and I talked to her over the winter about the (then-possible, now real) ballot measure and she will definitely vote for it. Now, I also need her to talk to her (insufferable) Republican women friends and get them to vote for it as well. My father will also likely vote for it. But as long as they both exist on the earth, they will never vote blue. (Also please add black shirts. I never grew out of my punk rock/goth phase and can't wear any of the shirts offered 🤣🤣.)
This is why I created a website that is just aggregating stories on the impacts of these bans on actual real people w uteruses. I'm not a professional like Jessica, but had to create it for my sanity. And I use it to share w people when I talk to them. I find it gets them out of all the hypotheticals. It's NoAbortionBans.com if anyone wants to use it. Again - just my little efforts.