I know I bring it up a lot but...do people who oppose abortion know they don't have to have one? Like if abortion is legal and accessible, that doesn't make it mandatory? I think about this a lot! Like it isn't as though you get knocked up and then you HAVE to have an abortion. I will never understand these people, nor will I understand …
I know I bring it up a lot but...do people who oppose abortion know they don't have to have one? Like if abortion is legal and accessible, that doesn't make it mandatory? I think about this a lot! Like it isn't as though you get knocked up and then you HAVE to have an abortion. I will never understand these people, nor will I understand paying money to troll like we apparently have here now! Exciting!
The anti-abortion people I have met have been indoctrinated at a young age, and seem to think we force it on every pregnant person. They don't understand the need for choice as they often had none.
So far they haven't been too hostile and it gives us a chance to make our case but, yeah, often these things degenerate into talking in circles. I've posted what I've posted for the benefit of everyone else here and not to try to persuade someone who may be unpersuadable. Also I think it's easier for a man to say that men are shit :) because when women say it they get accused of all kinds of character flaws.
Yeah I don't really engage with them because it's exhausting. I'll let dudes do the emotional labor of convincing people we deserve bodily autonomy! 🤣 But I do think my point is extremely valid - abortion should be legal and accessible, not mandatory! That's it.
Yeah it's morning and I've had my caffeine and I'm feeling punchy :) Also, it's absolutely right that women should not be bearing all of the burden of advocating for women's autonomy!
It’s interesting that someone new to this comment section, who self reports that she lives in Canada, a country where anyone over 12 can attain an abortion without parental consent and regardless of their economic status, would want to spend her time on this substack promoting her lens which she cannot vote for or against in the US.
Yes, it is written into their constitution. They do have their trumpy types who want to hurt others, and overturn human rights also. I lived in British Columbia for a couple of years during the Bush jr (shrub) debacle.
And yet, you live in Canada, where women’s choice is in tact. I’m curious how many children you have and how many you have birthed or adopted and whether you have suffered a miscarriage in the 2nd trimester or dealt with a fetal anomaly. No need to respond as there’s no way to fact check your answer.
Your push to fear monger about the end of times due to birth rate, fails to consider how many women have had multiple births in the U.S. after having abortions. Children that likely would not have been born. Abortion is needed healthcare for many who suffer miscarriage. Your lens ignores maternal death rates due to not accessing healthcare and the displacement of those birthed babies and children left behind. The number of babies who could have been birthed by those women had they lived.
I’m not looking to debate you after having read some of your substack and other postings. Regardless of your past trainings, it appears you have chosen to take that knowledge to follow a path that can often be fact checked for a fuller comprehension than what you post. Enjoy your freedom and your healthcare. Those of us living in the U.S. who believe in choice, will continue forward with the goal of attaining ours.
So if women aren't having the children they want..... we need forced pregnancy and forced birth?? Or you could, you know, figure out what's standing in the way. 🤔 Oh, that's right, women don't have the financial and relationship security to raise families. And they have to do all the work and give up the rest of their lives for children, without compensation. And why might that be? 🤔 Oh, that's right, because patriarchy is a shit way to run a civilization and men are allowed to be shit. If anyone really cared about the birth rate - lol - they would focus on THOSE two problems but instead it's let's force women to do what we think is best for them because, you know, girls can't figure that out for themselves! ☺️
I know I bring it up a lot but...do people who oppose abortion know they don't have to have one? Like if abortion is legal and accessible, that doesn't make it mandatory? I think about this a lot! Like it isn't as though you get knocked up and then you HAVE to have an abortion. I will never understand these people, nor will I understand paying money to troll like we apparently have here now! Exciting!
The anti-abortion people I have met have been indoctrinated at a young age, and seem to think we force it on every pregnant person. They don't understand the need for choice as they often had none.
So far they haven't been too hostile and it gives us a chance to make our case but, yeah, often these things degenerate into talking in circles. I've posted what I've posted for the benefit of everyone else here and not to try to persuade someone who may be unpersuadable. Also I think it's easier for a man to say that men are shit :) because when women say it they get accused of all kinds of character flaws.
Yeah I don't really engage with them because it's exhausting. I'll let dudes do the emotional labor of convincing people we deserve bodily autonomy! 🤣 But I do think my point is extremely valid - abortion should be legal and accessible, not mandatory! That's it.
Yeah it's morning and I've had my caffeine and I'm feeling punchy :) Also, it's absolutely right that women should not be bearing all of the burden of advocating for women's autonomy!
It’s interesting that someone new to this comment section, who self reports that she lives in Canada, a country where anyone over 12 can attain an abortion without parental consent and regardless of their economic status, would want to spend her time on this substack promoting her lens which she cannot vote for or against in the US.
Yes, it is written into their constitution. They do have their trumpy types who want to hurt others, and overturn human rights also. I lived in British Columbia for a couple of years during the Bush jr (shrub) debacle.
And yet, you live in Canada, where women’s choice is in tact. I’m curious how many children you have and how many you have birthed or adopted and whether you have suffered a miscarriage in the 2nd trimester or dealt with a fetal anomaly. No need to respond as there’s no way to fact check your answer.
Your push to fear monger about the end of times due to birth rate, fails to consider how many women have had multiple births in the U.S. after having abortions. Children that likely would not have been born. Abortion is needed healthcare for many who suffer miscarriage. Your lens ignores maternal death rates due to not accessing healthcare and the displacement of those birthed babies and children left behind. The number of babies who could have been birthed by those women had they lived.
I’m not looking to debate you after having read some of your substack and other postings. Regardless of your past trainings, it appears you have chosen to take that knowledge to follow a path that can often be fact checked for a fuller comprehension than what you post. Enjoy your freedom and your healthcare. Those of us living in the U.S. who believe in choice, will continue forward with the goal of attaining ours.
So if women aren't having the children they want..... we need forced pregnancy and forced birth?? Or you could, you know, figure out what's standing in the way. 🤔 Oh, that's right, women don't have the financial and relationship security to raise families. And they have to do all the work and give up the rest of their lives for children, without compensation. And why might that be? 🤔 Oh, that's right, because patriarchy is a shit way to run a civilization and men are allowed to be shit. If anyone really cared about the birth rate - lol - they would focus on THOSE two problems but instead it's let's force women to do what we think is best for them because, you know, girls can't figure that out for themselves! ☺️
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🤣🤣🤣 ok buddy