Hey I’d just like to point out that Jordan Peterson is buddying up to dudes like Matthew McConaughey and Russell Brand. So those guys are slime too — MM and his driveling brand of masculinity was all over my mothers daytime television all year, to give you an idea of how he’s sneaking into mainstream by connection.
What’s so tiring about this JR bs is that we all know the kind of men who listen to this podcast. Two of my brothers in law are the target demographic and have a complete lack of emotional intelligence or curiosity about anything. The rest of us (women, POC, the LGBTQ+ community etc) have to adapt and change/grow while these men remain confident in their mediocrity. YA BORING!
This is fire. Exactly right. Have you seen Andrew Yang’s recent plea for boys and men to be treated better, for the sake of social order? When even a guy who wraps himself in wokeness makes this argument, we can see how far back we really are.
Let’s consider that once women and girls are treated better. I’m 74 and I feel like I’m back in the 60’s with all the “mad men”. It wasn’t fun then either.
All true - and I also read about someone defending the man, stating that JR is just someone who is deeply curious about everything, which is why he also engages with those who are mad, bad and dangerous to know.
The thing is, that is not the behaviour of someone who is truly curious, let alone deeply curious. If you're curious, you want to learn things, to study them, not listen to X one moment and the next moment to Y. The Rogans of this world (on top of their good old boys' knee-jerking) are in fact deeply incurious; they don't use their brains as an engine for contemplation but as a remote control, zapping from one thing to the next, being both too restless and too lazy to focus on one thing for more than a few seconds.
True and well said. I especially liked when you said, "they see the culture shifting" because I want to believe decency will win this battle we're in. I fear the civil war that's coming. I fear that our 30+ year efforts to speak, write, and teach may not be enough in our lifetime.
He is your typical weak, scared, inadequate man child.
Yes to all of this! They present millenia-old misogyny as if its revolutionary.
Hey I’d just like to point out that Jordan Peterson is buddying up to dudes like Matthew McConaughey and Russell Brand. So those guys are slime too — MM and his driveling brand of masculinity was all over my mothers daytime television all year, to give you an idea of how he’s sneaking into mainstream by connection.
OF COURSE he is. Gross
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What’s so tiring about this JR bs is that we all know the kind of men who listen to this podcast. Two of my brothers in law are the target demographic and have a complete lack of emotional intelligence or curiosity about anything. The rest of us (women, POC, the LGBTQ+ community etc) have to adapt and change/grow while these men remain confident in their mediocrity. YA BORING!
Yeah, it worries me just how much his podcast - and others like it - are shaping a generation of men. It's super depressing
This is fire. Exactly right. Have you seen Andrew Yang’s recent plea for boys and men to be treated better, for the sake of social order? When even a guy who wraps himself in wokeness makes this argument, we can see how far back we really are.
YUP. They are desperate to feel like victims because when you're used to a certain amount of privilege, accountability feels like oppression
Let’s consider that once women and girls are treated better. I’m 74 and I feel like I’m back in the 60’s with all the “mad men”. It wasn’t fun then either.
Agree 100% which is why I was so dumbfounded by his obliviousness
All true - and I also read about someone defending the man, stating that JR is just someone who is deeply curious about everything, which is why he also engages with those who are mad, bad and dangerous to know.
The thing is, that is not the behaviour of someone who is truly curious, let alone deeply curious. If you're curious, you want to learn things, to study them, not listen to X one moment and the next moment to Y. The Rogans of this world (on top of their good old boys' knee-jerking) are in fact deeply incurious; they don't use their brains as an engine for contemplation but as a remote control, zapping from one thing to the next, being both too restless and too lazy to focus on one thing for more than a few seconds.
YES YES! There is definitely an attention span thing happening here
True and well said. I especially liked when you said, "they see the culture shifting" because I want to believe decency will win this battle we're in. I fear the civil war that's coming. I fear that our 30+ year efforts to speak, write, and teach may not be enough in our lifetime.
I have lots of fears, too - believe me. But in order to do this work you need an endless reserve of optimism!
Endless! And an endless supply of chocolate! Thank you for never stopping.
Extremely well said. I'm going to steal these thoughts and claim them as my own in conversation. (Please don't tell anyone.)
hahah you're welcome to! that's what I'm here for ;)
This sums it up perfectly. Thank you.
Thank you! I have had this on my mind FOREVER