I live in Idaho, and State Senator Melissa Wintrow is a true hero -- and serves as a reminder that no matter how dire things look in our state, there are still battles that can be won.
Making birth control medications available in bulk seems like a good idea. As a male whose wife was past menopause, I never had to learn if our insurance would have covered it. Most of our maintenance meds are prescribed as a 3 month supply with 3 refills so in effect we had them prescribed annually. As our insurance was through my employer which had its own pharmacy, it would have been useful had we been of childbearing ages.
Ok the doctors that aren't caring for woman when they miscarry is medical malpractice. There's no other way to look at it. Unless they are physically removing a healthy living fetus themselves in order to kill it and end the pregnancy, they (being doctors) should know that they need to help. A dnc is not what I described already because the baby died already. Where is the confusion in that? And as for them being forced to report abortions and all that, that's illegal. Hipaa means that doctors can refuse to give out any information and there is no circumventing that law. I think a warrant might be an exception but they would have to show up every day with one. While I do believe there is and should be a cut off time unless there is a medical emergency I also believe it is a necessary service. Not to use for birth control though. But seriously what is the point in going full term then having an abortion before you go into labor? It's already done the damage and adoption is easier and cheaper so why not just have it at that point? That would be such a mind fuck I'd rather go for adoption at that far along because they respond to you and stuff and I personally could never live with that. But I hope alot of this stuff is just something to get people all hyped up. If there are actual doctors refusing to treat for miscarriage or the couple of girls that had sepsis or what ever, they shouldn't be practicing if they don't know the difference. It's pretty black and white as in are you being asked to remove a live healthy fetus or baby or are you scraping dead tissue after the fetus obviously died and was misscarried? I know I'm blunt but there is no sugar coating for any part of this topic so why not just be frank about it.....
The procedure to clear out the fetal tissue is called a D & C (Dilation and curettage) curettes (a scraping tool) are used. Intent, or fetal demise, has no effect on the proper medical name for the procedure. And has nothing to do with what the procedure is called.
Signed: someone who went to specialized surgical classes to learn these things.
Doctors aren’t “removing healthy living” fetuses “to kill it and end the pregnancy.” And people don’t use abortion as birth control who have other options. Someone could be in foster care, raped by their guardian, and unable to get away or get enough money together for an abortion until later than whatever arbitrary ban in their state. But mostly, bans based on gestational age impact fewer and fewer abortions that may take place later and later in pregnancy due to fetal anomalies or health of the pregnant person. It impacts parents who don’t want to continue a pregnancy knowing their baby will die and who want to have the right to hold their baby in their arms versus inflicting state mandated traumatic and invasive “lifesaving” medical procedures in their deeply wanted child’s last moments. And giving up a child for adoption is just as stigmatized in this country as choosing abortion, so no. Not easier. You may mean well, but spreading these narratives isn’t helpful. Not everyone knows they’re pregnant right away, because not everyone’s cycle is the same. While oral and hormone-based contraceptives are safe and effective for most people and have been used safely and effectively by billions of people around the world for decades, they don’t work for everyone and various methods can fail (especially if they aren’t taken consistently at the same time every day, which not everyone can do, if they have to hide them, say, or have a varying work schedule, etc., which teens and low income workers are more likely to struggle with). Predators remove condoms! On purpose! People get pregnant despite their best efforts and also, we’re human. We’re fallible. No one deserves to be punished with a lifetime of coparenting with an abusive ex, no matter what. Including if they didn’t find out the person was abusive until they got pregnant by them (during pregnancy is when many victims of gender and intimate partner based violence are most at risk). Abortion cannot be regulated because it is so personal and so varied. IT IS PRIVATE AND MUST REMAIN PRIVATE. Between a pregnant person and their provider. Period.
We’ve been using the term “medical refugee” to (accurately) describe the patients who have to come to New York to get care. I wish more people would start using the term to counter the idiotic “abortion tourism”. Jessica is right that language is critical!
HIPAA is a big deal. My 12yo’s rights were protected by it today. My child’s private OT called because we have an IEP meeting at school next week and she will provide her assessment (at my expense) and the public school case manager asked her to share it. She had to call me and send it to me to share, so as not to avoid violating HIPAA, she said the school should not have asked without signed ROI’s.
In Idaho, 6 months of birth control at a time? Covered by insurance? I use Amazon pharmacy and my insurance covers 3 months at a time. I used to get it from Canada because it was cheaper (Yasmin, name brand also helps eczema/acne) but Amazon has it very affordably and takes insurance. Maybe more women should get it by mail, Amazon is so easy. I manage my children’s prescriptions too. They do have people answering questions on a phone if needed too.
As has been said many times, abortion is healthcare. Abortions are needed for so many reasons, and they are not considered lightly. Medical procedures of any kind are not considered lightly. I had hand surgery to release a stuck trigger finger, and I was quite stressed by that. Also having a colonoscopy and cataract surgery were big issues for me. How many kinds of medical procedures are required to be reported to the state. Colonoscopies, open heart surgeries, vasectomies, cancer surgeries, etc.? I still say these frigging abortion bans are legislative rape.
I hope that more women who have not received necessary care from Catholic hospitals will sue. Make these hospitals be deposed, subpoena, be forced to state under pain of perjury that they are denying women care that could save their lives/health.
A friend’s son who is an MD is leaving Missouri for exactly the reasons you cite. He can’t give his patients the care they need. One less OB to care for women there.
A neighbor’s daughter just completed her OBGYN residency in another state. She (and her ER doc boyfriend) will not be returning to Fl to practice.And two years in a row, DeSantis vetoed funding for long-acting,reversible contraception for low income women….at request of the Florida Catholic Conference.
It’s impacting all levels of healthcare in states that already have abysmal health outcomes. Because hello! Who else are you going to meet in Med school besides other doctors/premed students? When OB/GYNs leave a state because they can’t practice what they went into the work to practice, their doctor (or nurse, or radiologist, or anesthesiologist, etc…) spouses are likely to leave with them.
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Hi Jessica, awhile back you posted a list of reproductive rights organizations (which help women and/or work on restoring reproductive rights…). Could you repost?
Here's the lastest update about the St. Joseph lawsuit: https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2024/dec/27/providence-seeks-have-state-lawsuit-over-emergency/
As a currently-pregnant person in Humboldt County, I'm terrified and infuriated.
I live in Idaho, and State Senator Melissa Wintrow is a true hero -- and serves as a reminder that no matter how dire things look in our state, there are still battles that can be won.
Making birth control medications available in bulk seems like a good idea. As a male whose wife was past menopause, I never had to learn if our insurance would have covered it. Most of our maintenance meds are prescribed as a 3 month supply with 3 refills so in effect we had them prescribed annually. As our insurance was through my employer which had its own pharmacy, it would have been useful had we been of childbearing ages.
Ok the doctors that aren't caring for woman when they miscarry is medical malpractice. There's no other way to look at it. Unless they are physically removing a healthy living fetus themselves in order to kill it and end the pregnancy, they (being doctors) should know that they need to help. A dnc is not what I described already because the baby died already. Where is the confusion in that? And as for them being forced to report abortions and all that, that's illegal. Hipaa means that doctors can refuse to give out any information and there is no circumventing that law. I think a warrant might be an exception but they would have to show up every day with one. While I do believe there is and should be a cut off time unless there is a medical emergency I also believe it is a necessary service. Not to use for birth control though. But seriously what is the point in going full term then having an abortion before you go into labor? It's already done the damage and adoption is easier and cheaper so why not just have it at that point? That would be such a mind fuck I'd rather go for adoption at that far along because they respond to you and stuff and I personally could never live with that. But I hope alot of this stuff is just something to get people all hyped up. If there are actual doctors refusing to treat for miscarriage or the couple of girls that had sepsis or what ever, they shouldn't be practicing if they don't know the difference. It's pretty black and white as in are you being asked to remove a live healthy fetus or baby or are you scraping dead tissue after the fetus obviously died and was misscarried? I know I'm blunt but there is no sugar coating for any part of this topic so why not just be frank about it.....
The procedure to clear out the fetal tissue is called a D & C (Dilation and curettage) curettes (a scraping tool) are used. Intent, or fetal demise, has no effect on the proper medical name for the procedure. And has nothing to do with what the procedure is called.
Signed: someone who went to specialized surgical classes to learn these things.
Thanks! You too!
Doctors aren’t “removing healthy living” fetuses “to kill it and end the pregnancy.” And people don’t use abortion as birth control who have other options. Someone could be in foster care, raped by their guardian, and unable to get away or get enough money together for an abortion until later than whatever arbitrary ban in their state. But mostly, bans based on gestational age impact fewer and fewer abortions that may take place later and later in pregnancy due to fetal anomalies or health of the pregnant person. It impacts parents who don’t want to continue a pregnancy knowing their baby will die and who want to have the right to hold their baby in their arms versus inflicting state mandated traumatic and invasive “lifesaving” medical procedures in their deeply wanted child’s last moments. And giving up a child for adoption is just as stigmatized in this country as choosing abortion, so no. Not easier. You may mean well, but spreading these narratives isn’t helpful. Not everyone knows they’re pregnant right away, because not everyone’s cycle is the same. While oral and hormone-based contraceptives are safe and effective for most people and have been used safely and effectively by billions of people around the world for decades, they don’t work for everyone and various methods can fail (especially if they aren’t taken consistently at the same time every day, which not everyone can do, if they have to hide them, say, or have a varying work schedule, etc., which teens and low income workers are more likely to struggle with). Predators remove condoms! On purpose! People get pregnant despite their best efforts and also, we’re human. We’re fallible. No one deserves to be punished with a lifetime of coparenting with an abusive ex, no matter what. Including if they didn’t find out the person was abusive until they got pregnant by them (during pregnancy is when many victims of gender and intimate partner based violence are most at risk). Abortion cannot be regulated because it is so personal and so varied. IT IS PRIVATE AND MUST REMAIN PRIVATE. Between a pregnant person and their provider. Period.
Thank you, extremely well explained.
Abortion is not used for birth control. You aren't helping when you parrot forced birth talking points.
We’ve been using the term “medical refugee” to (accurately) describe the patients who have to come to New York to get care. I wish more people would start using the term to counter the idiotic “abortion tourism”. Jessica is right that language is critical!
That is much more accurate, when they have flee to get proper medical reproductive care.
HIPAA is a big deal. My 12yo’s rights were protected by it today. My child’s private OT called because we have an IEP meeting at school next week and she will provide her assessment (at my expense) and the public school case manager asked her to share it. She had to call me and send it to me to share, so as not to avoid violating HIPAA, she said the school should not have asked without signed ROI’s.
In Idaho, 6 months of birth control at a time? Covered by insurance? I use Amazon pharmacy and my insurance covers 3 months at a time. I used to get it from Canada because it was cheaper (Yasmin, name brand also helps eczema/acne) but Amazon has it very affordably and takes insurance. Maybe more women should get it by mail, Amazon is so easy. I manage my children’s prescriptions too. They do have people answering questions on a phone if needed too.
As has been said many times, abortion is healthcare. Abortions are needed for so many reasons, and they are not considered lightly. Medical procedures of any kind are not considered lightly. I had hand surgery to release a stuck trigger finger, and I was quite stressed by that. Also having a colonoscopy and cataract surgery were big issues for me. How many kinds of medical procedures are required to be reported to the state. Colonoscopies, open heart surgeries, vasectomies, cancer surgeries, etc.? I still say these frigging abortion bans are legislative rape.
I hope that more women who have not received necessary care from Catholic hospitals will sue. Make these hospitals be deposed, subpoena, be forced to state under pain of perjury that they are denying women care that could save their lives/health.
A friend’s son who is an MD is leaving Missouri for exactly the reasons you cite. He can’t give his patients the care they need. One less OB to care for women there.
A neighbor’s daughter just completed her OBGYN residency in another state. She (and her ER doc boyfriend) will not be returning to Fl to practice.And two years in a row, DeSantis vetoed funding for long-acting,reversible contraception for low income women….at request of the Florida Catholic Conference.
Request hell, they bribed him, just like the insurance and utility companies have.
It’s impacting all levels of healthcare in states that already have abysmal health outcomes. Because hello! Who else are you going to meet in Med school besides other doctors/premed students? When OB/GYNs leave a state because they can’t practice what they went into the work to practice, their doctor (or nurse, or radiologist, or anesthesiologist, etc…) spouses are likely to leave with them.
Good point.
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Hi Jessica, awhile back you posted a list of reproductive rights organizations (which help women and/or work on restoring reproductive rights…). Could you repost?