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Your comment makes sense and it’s well presented although I take issue with some of it. Way too many people voted for Trump and for Republicans, although I’m not one of them. We’ve been waiting for young voters to turn out and vote in larger numbers but it’s not happening. Many of us hate Trump and many of us are still marching and sending money to liberal candidates. I’m tired of the generational sniping and it doesn’t serve either of us.

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The sign I carry at protests says, “They won’t stop at Roe.”

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Where is the outrage? I know where it is. What I can't figure out is how to get the outrage OUT, and in a way that can make a difference. A lot here in these comments about Florida and some about Texas... I am in Texas. I would like to ask that people refrain from generalizing about millions of people based on their home state's reputation and/or leadership. First off - in a lot of the elections where Rs win, it's no landslide. There are millions and millions of people voting blue, and even progressive in Texas (and probably Florida too; I speak of TX bc I have lived here for 52 years). Lots of people CANNOT leave even if they want to. And the more people that flee these so-called "red" states (no such thing as either red or blue; they're all purple) the more the already vulnerable in the "red" states suffer. You may say "But y'all elected those a-holes." Did we? I guess technically "we" did. I admit that there are a multitude of rednecks who vote for jerks. But we STILL don't deserve this abuse. No one does. Even if we elected scum. And again... did we? Really?? I hate to say it, but I'm going to anyway. There's something that we don't really talk about but I think we should. I realize it can make people sound like they are losing their minds when they bring it up, and that's exactly what the Rs want. But... think about Jan 6, and all the weeks preceding it. Ken Paxton, our AG (indicted seven years ago for fraud but yet to face trial), was helping with the insurrection. Ted Cruz and many others stood up and objected when they KNEW damn well that Biden had won. They tried to cheat, which is to say they DID cheat; just because it didn't work does not mean they didn't actually cheat. Now consider the fact that we know everyone loathes trump. And if he was no longer king of their party, they could each run for president. Ted, Josh Hawley, et al - none of them are in politics to be anything but a RULER. They aren't happy being senators. They want to be president. And they want the presidency to mean "king." But still, they cheated, in plain sight, to help *that* guy. Does it make sense that they'd all just cheat then for the first time? Does it make sense that they'd cheat for that guy but not themselves? Is it far fetched to think that by screaming "voter fraud" they've used the old Nazi/KGB tactic of accusing people of what they are guilty of? They have us all yelling "IT WAS A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION" to paint us into a corner. But there's a difference between "voter fraud" and "election fraud." Voter fraud - 3 dogs in a trench coat pretending to be your dead grandma - is RARE. We are correct when we say that. What about election fraud? Is it possible that in all the audits, etc. we missed something? Republicans do not care about democracy or fairness or honesty. They care about POWER. They are ruthless and amoral. Even if my theory is wrong, there is gerrymandering and extreme voter suppression. So yeah... they're not winning by playing fair. They're not winning in a small d democratic fashion.

Lots of us did NOT vote for them, though. Furthermore, a lot of people who consider themselves conservative, and even a lot of those who aren't comfortable with abortions being "easily" accessible (like they may be ok with a 12-week ban or 15 rather than 20-24) - those people DO NOT WANT THESE ARCHAIC, BARBARIC laws. But they have a naïve trust in the system. They think that if things were really bad, someone would be doing something. And so they push it to the back of their minds.

We, on the liberal side, can't push it to the back of our minds but we still have to go to work, raise families, etc. We talk to each other but the conservatives won't listen to anything we say.

So that's where the outrage is... it's buried. Defeated, though hopefully temporarily. The "moderate" (whatever that means) and conservatives think that this stuff with pregnant people suffering will get sorted out. They believe the lies about "executing babies" and think that exceptions work, and they don't even believe it when you tell them about states without ANY exceptions. They do have outrage at the patriarchy but they don't know it. They just pray for forgiveness for their dark thoughts that they have about their husband's untimely demise. And for us libs... well, we are open about the rage that we feel but no one can figure out how to turn it into effective action.

Protest? Well, it isn't physically safe to protest by marching. But of course, it's pretty much dangerous everywhere because guns guns guns and hillbillies yelling about "MAH RAHTS! MURICA! COMENTAKEIT!" And it is not very effective here, as is evidenced by the fact these laws have passed at all.

But here's the real core of the problem - a two -headed monster made of sadism and money.

First the sadism: How to win here? The Rs love it when we are compliant and when they get their way. They love to lie and their malicious disinfo is so pervasive it will never completely wash out. But even when we do NOT comply, they enjoy it. It's not that Rs don't care when we protest. It's that they LOVE it. They laugh. They relish the fact that nobody likes their policies. They are abusive and they get off on seeing thousands of women all worked up and yet ultimately helpless. They actually LOVE that they only have the true support of about 10% of the population. That's part of the fun for them. So it's ineffective to show outrage. It just makes it harder on us individually. The conservative wives suffer at home, and the rest of us suffer too - for example, most of us work with at least one patriarchal bully who knows how to bully without ever saying or doing anything quiiiiite explicit enough to get them in trouble. Insinuation kings. Once they know you're the resident militant feminist, look out.

They. love. to. watch. you. fight. My ex-husband used to do a thing where he'd poke me in the side like kind of rough tickle. I'd try to swat at him, like shooing him away. He'd then grab my head and step back, literally keeping me at arm's length, and he'd laugh and say "swing at me." He knew he could hold me there with one hand and I could have swung all day... even if I did manage to make contact, it wouldn't have hurt him in the least. And of course I didn't "swing." And he would get annoyed that I didn't!

Lastly, the money. Texas has 3 religious zealot billionaires who are funding at least a third of the politicians in our legislature. Their goal is literally to take over society. One of them gave Ted Cruz $15 million, I think. CNN did a special on them; it's relatively easy to find information on them if anyone is still reading and interested. Where are the rich liberals?! Why can't we get some cash pumped into informing people in the "red" states?

So where is the outrage? It's inside us. Screaming in fury all the time. It's in our exhaustion. In our fear. In our chewed fingernails and furrowed brows. In our nightmares. In our tears. Because the fact is that these men DO have the power, legally. I'm saying men not to exclude female Rs from responsibility; it's just that even the women helping them will eventually have their faces eaten, as Judi commented. The most conservative among them are brainwashed and believe this is all God's will or something.

In addition to the true believers, Texas in particular has a religious faction which is not a religion at all but a political movement seeking to destroy the rights of everyone but rich white men. And the most powerful Democrats in the US Congress are doing basically NOTHING to counter it. NOTHING. So if you think it's red states, it's not. It's oppression from the right and weakness from the elected left.

We're still Americans here in these states. We pay federal taxes. We have to obey federal law. Yet we have been forsaken by the federal govt. We had Congress and the WH, but Schumer refused to do what Mitch would do; instead, he prioritized the filibuster over us. When Roe fell, the Senate Dems' response was not to act, but to tell us to vote for them in the fall so THEN they'd help us. That was nonsense, because if you're going to maybe lose, you should act NOW, and if you're going to win, why wait? But he did wait, and they won, but oh darn the luck - not by enough. So basically we don't have rights unless we what... vote harder? And with the filibuster and electoral college and all the systemic NONSENSE, how the hell are we ever supposed to be heard?!

And now here we are approaching a first anniversary of the corrupt SCOTUS's witch burner decision, and we're 50 years in the past. With their hands on our heads and our daughter's heads. We should swing. We want to swing. But we need a way for that swing to make contact.

The outrage is here. At arm's length.

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Dear conservative white women,

Have you even noticed that the leopards are licking your earlobes? Have you even seen how close their sharp fangs are to your face? Have you not smelled their hot, carnivore breath?

WAKE UP! Your face WILL be eaten! Banning abortion was only step one. Wait until they come for contraception. Wait until they refuse any sort of public assistance to women unless they are "properly" married to a MAN. Have you looked into the Texas GOP platform? They want "covenant marriage" to make it harder for women to get out of unhappy marriages. Oh yes, don't forget "household voting"! Yes, you are all for punishing those "woke" school-teachers and their LGBTQ storybooks. Wait until the GOP simply scraps publicly-funded PreK, K, and, oh heck, let's just get rid of grades 1-3. The wimmin folk can "stay home and school them kids. Shouldn't be takin' jobs away from the menfolk innyway."

There is a pattern; there is a plan. Conservative white women just don't see it happening to THEM.

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My heart goes to any woman who lives in the increasingly dystopian DeSantistan.

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Mar 24, 2023·edited Mar 24, 2023

Part of the problem with Florida is that about 67% of the residents aren't from Florida and don't identify as Floridian. This causes a problem with solidarity and a lack of concern for the state, particularly with retirees. I was born in Miami and spent a great portion of my life in Florida and all of my time there I heard nothing but negativity about how stupid and horrible Floridians are. Hardly a day goes by that some news outlet or "comedian" isn't bashing Florida or calling someone a "Florida Man". Add to that the fact that the Democratic Party in Florida is very weak and not terribly organized. And even though Obama won the state twice, the media was much more interested in turning Texas Blue... TEXAS of all places. All you have to do is notice that the media keeps referring to Trump as a Floridian when he was born, raised and made his money in New York. Slate had a very good piece about why DeSantis couldn't ban abortion outright. You can read it here: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/06/florida-15-week-abortion-ban-state-constitution-privacy-rights.html But by imposing a 6 week restriction, DeSantis seeks to impose a ban without doing it outright. I suspect that if his ban passes there will be challenges as to it's state constitutionality. But we'll see.

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One thing I'm now beginning to wonder is how much generational age is a factor. Women and girls of reproductive age are primarily millennials and gen-Zers, and those are generations who have more or less spent their whole lives being shit on by the baby boomers, (and also are less white). How much are low expectations and learned helplessness among those who are most directly impacted a problem? I suppose those are the preconditions for tyranny?

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hi, tried to donate to FL but site was locked into paypal. nope.

sticking with whole women's health. : )

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They are swiftly moving towards removing ALL of women’s rights. Recall when just 100 years ago women were deemed not eligible to vote because they were deemed “not human beings.” Let that sink in, ladies.

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Check Women's March for protests. Protesting may not change it but not protesting won't and let's them think we won't do anything to fight back. I hear you though, that's part of it too, have any other states with these laws ended up not passing them because of civic action?? I don't think people in other states realize either how far it is to go the to capital. It is 4 hours from Tampa and Orlando and 8 hours from Miami. Those are the major cities.

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Where is the uprising, indeed.

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As a Floridian woman who has lived here my entire life, I can understand the question Senator Book as asking where the outrage is. I and many of us did not vote for this legislature or Governor. I spoke out on social media to tell people why not to vote for the Governor and I regularly update on what's going on with these insane laws, it is almost impossible to keep up- I am dismayed at the lack of response and the lack of others doing the same. I also understand that it is getting harder and harder to survive here and when survival is top of mind, advocacy seems like a luxury. Especially when there's a republican supermajority and courts that do exactly what the governor wants no matter the citizen's views or what the law says. Senator Book is in office trying to fight this and feels helpless, how do you think ordinary citizens feel? Florida doesn't have worker protections like California, wages are low and cost of living is increasingly high. People can't afford to risk their jobs. People who go to speak at hearings aren't allowed to speak or are cut off after 1 minute. There are laws against protesting. This is not said to be an excuse. I contact my representatives and congressional Committees, I encourage others to do so as well even if it feels like it will fall on deaf ears because if we say nothing at all then nothing will change. But too many people here either still aren't paying attention or didn't believe us when we tried to warn them and now the systems are even more stacked against us. Make sure this doesn't happen in your state and make sure Desantis doesn't become President.

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Mar 24, 2023·edited Mar 24, 2023

Great insights and an excellent post. I don't know. I just feel like those of us who are watching this in real time are seeing how much we've become like Weimar Germany in the 1920s, a relatively liberal society beset with lots of economic and societal turmoil, that is brick by brick becoming a bigoted cruel authoritarian society with tremendous state violence towards out groups. That the GOP has pivoted within months from "women safety" to "women should face the death penalty" tells us that we're really not in a situation where we can work toward a common good. I can't persuade someone who thinks a woman should be executed for asserting her basic human rights. I can't seek common ground with someone who thinks children should bear children. It's distressing. Just need to emote. I don't really have an idea how we're going to fix it other than just going down fighting until the bitter end.

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I am sad that collective action is not a tool our country knows how to wield well. If every man, woman, nonbinary or trans walked out on our economy for two days - would the religious minority still be able to hold us by our throats?

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I just read a story in the NY Times about a Sarasota hospital board take-over...due to its COVID protocols. Quote from new board member, elected under the "health freedom" banner:

"Mr. Rohe said that he and the other new board members do not want to force doctors to prescribe treatments they “do not believe in” or that go against their medical judgment. But, he added, “We feel that a person’s health decisions should be made by that person in consultation with their physician. We don’t feel that it should be made one-size-fits-all, made in Washington, or by some insurance company.”

So why doesn't this apply to women's health care?

Link to article (might be behind paywall): https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/us/covid-florida-sarasota-memorial-hospital.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-us-politics&variant=show&region=MAIN_CONTENT_1&block=storyline_top_links_recirc#

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Yes! Where is the outrage?? The idea that there is someone else to do the heavy lifting is false! Wake up people, reproductive right belong to everyone!!

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