Maddow's show last night was excellent. She did something that others have not in a way that it sticks. She showed how to hold the R party accountable for their failings and their depravity in hoisting the trump nightmare on the country. Make the R word toxic, I say (I hope people/media start talking about the party and not just trump) and vote D everywhere at least for the next few election cycles to prevent trumpies getting into the system.
If this exit polling below from CNN about OH Issue 1 is to be believed, white women with and w/o degree count for just 32% of Yes votes and white men with and w/o degree for 36% of Yes votes. I think Rs' strategy has been on any issue is to ignore everything non-white constituents (and their white supporters) vote for. I noticed something similar about SCOTUS that if the decision does not include Alito and Thomas in the majority, just minimize it as if it is not valid. They think they can illegitimate anything that is driven by the non-white crowd (and their white supporters). Maddow was talking about how minorities are diminished in status to make autocracy possible (and women even though big in numbers are treated as 'minorities' which is why the Rs think they can get away with overturning Roe and putting women through misery). That is what is happening here. I feel like there is a lot of analysis about what is happening from people in power (media, politicians) but less of a solution to prevent the inevitable if corrections are not made. We need to move from analysis to prevention stage. Sound the alarm, people (and media) and VOTE for Democrats, at every level. And, I hope Democrats are smart and put up quality candidates everywhere.
Now that Roe is overturned, they've become drunk on their fervor to subjugate us. It is the GOP's unifying governing philosophy and they don't care that the majority disagrees. I'm not surprised that this is happening now in Ohio post vote. It'll never stop unless our rights are codified and also in the Constitution. It's either that or the deconstruction of the democracy in pursuit of a theocratic state.
Yes, the clinic bombings, harassing crazies outside the clinics and threats to the school boards say that. The "proud boys" picketed a school board official in the town next to mine, the funny thing is it was one of their theological creeps. They got the wrong member! No one ever called them the "Bright Boys". They often meet the description of Stochastic Terorist.
stochastic terrorism
[ stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uhm ]SHOW IPA
noun
the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.
This is essentially its own coup. They set the precedent in January 2021 to fully embrace election denial; this is just going to be their mode going forward. Absolutely depressing and exhausting.
I’ve just read the wording of the Ohio amendment and wonder why if the constitutional amendment says it is "self executing", why would all the old laws have to be repealed?
I've always thought their goal was total control authoritarianism, and they use issues [abortion, lgbtq, identity, etc] to wedge so they can divide and conquer. Their chief weapons are fear.. surprise..etc except not funny at all.
1. I have been coming here, for months, and talking about these people in terms of their not giving a fuck. They are fully radicalized. I mean, I first heard I might have to pick up a gun and kill people for Jesus when I was in elementary school. That was the 1970s. So many of those people never left those pews. They have listened to this for 50 fucking years. Willingly. And others coopted their tactics to make propaganda machines like Fox News and similar. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE LAW OR THE RULE OF LAW. PERIOD. This should surprise absolutely no one here. We should be ahead of this shit. But we're just always reacting.
2. This is not solely about fascist theocrats, but fascist theocrats started this. My brother-in-law hasn't darkened the door of a church in forever and ever, but he was at the insurrection. They are serving the same kool-aid, and they're using whoever they have to use to get to their end goal: a fascist theocracy. People like my BIL may not like that once it happens, but it's too late then.
3. These people believe the Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God. Period. If the Bible says abortion is a sin (to them), then that's the end of it. Abortion is a sin, and they are commanded to do whatever they must do to stop it. Including ignoring laws that contradict their interpretation of the Bible, attacking people who perform abortions and clinics as "their enemies," and dying if necessary. And if we don't stop pussyfooting around and call this shit out JUST LIKE THIS...like, "Hey, America. Is THIS who you want to be in charge?" Then they are going to win. This is about something bigger for them than destroying democracy. It is about forcing their faith on everyone. Yes, even the faithless yahoos who are just racist and whatnot, and they joined the same team thinking they could control the outcome. Virtually nobody is talking about it. Many of these people are radicalized enough to die for this. I know I sound screechy and hysterical, and I should just find a way to make funny videos to explain this stuff and put them up in the algorithm casino of the fucking internet for the house to always win, but this is too serious to me. I can't be funny or cute about it.
I don't want to be doomy-gloomy, but I am tired. I was putting something together to explain this to people, but I got my final heartbreaking rejection last week and I'm not processing very well.
Rant incoming: This is honestly such an ominous portent of next year. They know they are unpopular, so they are willing to blow up the framework of this country to get their way. I wish they would all fuck off to Hungary, because it’s clear they want to emulate Orban’s dictatorship. I’m so fucking angry and anxious all the time. Never in a thousand years did I think this could happen. I seriously want to beat the shit out of any mf who voted for Trump and I abhor violence. I’m just irate that we have people who seem to possess the intellect of a 5th grade dropout steering from behind.
Maddow's show last night was excellent. She did something that others have not in a way that it sticks. She showed how to hold the R party accountable for their failings and their depravity in hoisting the trump nightmare on the country. Make the R word toxic, I say (I hope people/media start talking about the party and not just trump) and vote D everywhere at least for the next few election cycles to prevent trumpies getting into the system.
If this exit polling below from CNN about OH Issue 1 is to be believed, white women with and w/o degree count for just 32% of Yes votes and white men with and w/o degree for 36% of Yes votes. I think Rs' strategy has been on any issue is to ignore everything non-white constituents (and their white supporters) vote for. I noticed something similar about SCOTUS that if the decision does not include Alito and Thomas in the majority, just minimize it as if it is not valid. They think they can illegitimate anything that is driven by the non-white crowd (and their white supporters). Maddow was talking about how minorities are diminished in status to make autocracy possible (and women even though big in numbers are treated as 'minorities' which is why the Rs think they can get away with overturning Roe and putting women through misery). That is what is happening here. I feel like there is a lot of analysis about what is happening from people in power (media, politicians) but less of a solution to prevent the inevitable if corrections are not made. We need to move from analysis to prevention stage. Sound the alarm, people (and media) and VOTE for Democrats, at every level. And, I hope Democrats are smart and put up quality candidates everywhere.
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1722068347515289895
Now that Roe is overturned, they've become drunk on their fervor to subjugate us. It is the GOP's unifying governing philosophy and they don't care that the majority disagrees. I'm not surprised that this is happening now in Ohio post vote. It'll never stop unless our rights are codified and also in the Constitution. It's either that or the deconstruction of the democracy in pursuit of a theocratic state.
Yes, the clinic bombings, harassing crazies outside the clinics and threats to the school boards say that. The "proud boys" picketed a school board official in the town next to mine, the funny thing is it was one of their theological creeps. They got the wrong member! No one ever called them the "Bright Boys". They often meet the description of Stochastic Terorist.
stochastic terrorism
[ stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uhm ]SHOW IPA
noun
the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.
This is essentially its own coup. They set the precedent in January 2021 to fully embrace election denial; this is just going to be their mode going forward. Absolutely depressing and exhausting.
The comparison of the "explanation" on the OHIO ballot vs the actual initiative is pretty amazing too.
I’ve just read the wording of the Ohio amendment and wonder why if the constitutional amendment says it is "self executing", why would all the old laws have to be repealed?
And this is a great example of why people were so pissed about Roe: because we now have to muck through this BS for years? decades?
We should be proud of Ohio voters. This is another step toward broadcasting to all that voters don’t want these bans. This is not the People’s will.
So what will it take to vote these bastards out? In how many election cycles? What is the plan, in every state...
expected, still disappointing. Thanks for rounding up all this information so we can share and give folks a heads up. Stay strong!
I've always thought their goal was total control authoritarianism, and they use issues [abortion, lgbtq, identity, etc] to wedge so they can divide and conquer. Their chief weapons are fear.. surprise..etc except not funny at all.
I feel like we're in a zombie apocalypse movie. They won't go away. These people are scary.
https://newrepublic.com/post/176876/ohio-republicans-plan-sabotage-abortion-election-results
Jessica got a shout-out at the New Republic!
I am going to say some hard things right now.
1. I have been coming here, for months, and talking about these people in terms of their not giving a fuck. They are fully radicalized. I mean, I first heard I might have to pick up a gun and kill people for Jesus when I was in elementary school. That was the 1970s. So many of those people never left those pews. They have listened to this for 50 fucking years. Willingly. And others coopted their tactics to make propaganda machines like Fox News and similar. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE LAW OR THE RULE OF LAW. PERIOD. This should surprise absolutely no one here. We should be ahead of this shit. But we're just always reacting.
2. This is not solely about fascist theocrats, but fascist theocrats started this. My brother-in-law hasn't darkened the door of a church in forever and ever, but he was at the insurrection. They are serving the same kool-aid, and they're using whoever they have to use to get to their end goal: a fascist theocracy. People like my BIL may not like that once it happens, but it's too late then.
3. These people believe the Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God. Period. If the Bible says abortion is a sin (to them), then that's the end of it. Abortion is a sin, and they are commanded to do whatever they must do to stop it. Including ignoring laws that contradict their interpretation of the Bible, attacking people who perform abortions and clinics as "their enemies," and dying if necessary. And if we don't stop pussyfooting around and call this shit out JUST LIKE THIS...like, "Hey, America. Is THIS who you want to be in charge?" Then they are going to win. This is about something bigger for them than destroying democracy. It is about forcing their faith on everyone. Yes, even the faithless yahoos who are just racist and whatnot, and they joined the same team thinking they could control the outcome. Virtually nobody is talking about it. Many of these people are radicalized enough to die for this. I know I sound screechy and hysterical, and I should just find a way to make funny videos to explain this stuff and put them up in the algorithm casino of the fucking internet for the house to always win, but this is too serious to me. I can't be funny or cute about it.
I don't want to be doomy-gloomy, but I am tired. I was putting something together to explain this to people, but I got my final heartbreaking rejection last week and I'm not processing very well.
Oh I just effing HATE THEM and their anti-democratic BULLSHIT.
Rant incoming: This is honestly such an ominous portent of next year. They know they are unpopular, so they are willing to blow up the framework of this country to get their way. I wish they would all fuck off to Hungary, because it’s clear they want to emulate Orban’s dictatorship. I’m so fucking angry and anxious all the time. Never in a thousand years did I think this could happen. I seriously want to beat the shit out of any mf who voted for Trump and I abhor violence. I’m just irate that we have people who seem to possess the intellect of a 5th grade dropout steering from behind.