The most cruel part of these “exceptions” for rape victims is the requirement to involve the police. There a new doc out “Victim/Suspect” on how the police all too often criminalize assault victims, pressuring or tricking them into recanting and charging them with making false reports instead of investigating the crime. A young woman trying to access an abortion “exception,” will be under even more suspicion and may well end up in jail and still pregnant.
I swing from being convinced we’re plunging into a sort of semi permanent dark age to thinking this will go like Prohibition went and end with a massive counter swing back toward women’s rights with an ERA and constitutional abortion access to take it out of the hands of the courts and psychotic state law makers. But even in a best case scenario thousands of women will die needlessly for the lesson to be learned. Conservative women are going to be burying their daughters before they get it through their thick skulls that they’ve really screwed up here.
First… please support pro-choice legislative candidates in VA. IF Rs take over the legislature this Nov., there will be an awful domino effect for women in WV, NC & SC, who can still travel to VA in a day. Maybe support Planned Parenthood in VA as they plan to handle the increase for healthcare headed their way.
How many have heard of the National Abortion Federation? I found it tonight & am learning. It’s the professional association for abortion providers. We must stand with & support providers.
Another South Carolinian here. I’m not surprised. I knew they would not stop until they achieved this abominable outcome. I’ve been awake all night (living in Spain at the moment) with another panic attack, and I’m 54. Nobody can force me to be pregnant now. But because of my life experience, I’m gutted for anyone who can be pregnant.
We must keep fighting. If everyone leaves these states, who will fight? I get that argument.
But I also refuse to return to the theocratic, Christian Taliban world of my upbringing. I fought for 2 decades to deprogram myself and have the life I want. I will not go back. I’m telling young people I love to avoid my state and others like it. I’m preparing to leave for good myself, because I know how bad this will get before it starts to get better.
Sorry this is disjointed. Between hyperventilating, raging and crying, it has been a long night.
We drove from AZ to CA recently and my husband turned to me after we crossed the Colorado River and said, “Oh. Hello. I didn’t see you there. Welcome to a state where you are valued as a whole and complete person.” He was right.
Makes my blood boil! So frustrating! Cruel! Unnecessary! Arrrrgh!!! 🤯
I’m so sorry for the women south of the Mason-Dixon Line and west of the Ohio River. PA is the last stop where women are somewhat protected from sexually obsessed men.
This obsession with women’s uterus’s in this day and age is a mental illness.
It’ll be years before women regain bodily autonomy again. I’m 65 and I can’t stand this! Where is the outrage?
While this news came in I was watching the Physicians for Reproductive Healthcare Voices of Courage 2023 awards live stream. The program starts about 29 minutes in. John Oliver speaks about 84 minutes in, but I think even he was struggling a bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhRCw6ZgHA
I am numb and so sad tonight. I am from South Carolina and have been down there fighting the good fight these last few months. What's just awful is that these men won't bring this up for a referendum, because they know that the majority of South Carolinians are supportive of abortion rights and supportive of health care for women. Women are now second class citizens in the south. How can I ever go back there?
It was always going to get bad. As soon as Roe was gone, it was always, always going to lead to this, to women losing their fertility and their lives and their autonomy. It's what the zealots have wanted for decades. We just have to keep at it, keep protesting, fight the battle state by state. And hopefully, hopefully, the despicable people pushing this cruelty will continue to go too far; we know they can't stop. Yes, women will die; yes, babies will be born to parents that can't take care of them and they will live hard lives in poverty and struggle, and yes, women's dreams and ambitions will be crushed. As soon as they shoved their handmaid onto the court, it was always going to come to this. But I have to have hope that it will outrage people who will turn out to vote in every election, until we have a Congress that will codify Roe and a SCOTUS that sees women as people deserving of rights again. But yes, it's going to get ugly.
I live in SC and have been watching this very closely. My husband and I sat and had a conversation with our 14 year old daughter and have decided, for her safety, to try and find a dr that with give her an IUD. My job is to keep my daughter safe.
The most cruel part of these “exceptions” for rape victims is the requirement to involve the police. There a new doc out “Victim/Suspect” on how the police all too often criminalize assault victims, pressuring or tricking them into recanting and charging them with making false reports instead of investigating the crime. A young woman trying to access an abortion “exception,” will be under even more suspicion and may well end up in jail and still pregnant.
I swing from being convinced we’re plunging into a sort of semi permanent dark age to thinking this will go like Prohibition went and end with a massive counter swing back toward women’s rights with an ERA and constitutional abortion access to take it out of the hands of the courts and psychotic state law makers. But even in a best case scenario thousands of women will die needlessly for the lesson to be learned. Conservative women are going to be burying their daughters before they get it through their thick skulls that they’ve really screwed up here.
First… please support pro-choice legislative candidates in VA. IF Rs take over the legislature this Nov., there will be an awful domino effect for women in WV, NC & SC, who can still travel to VA in a day. Maybe support Planned Parenthood in VA as they plan to handle the increase for healthcare headed their way.
How many have heard of the National Abortion Federation? I found it tonight & am learning. It’s the professional association for abortion providers. We must stand with & support providers.
Another South Carolinian here. I’m not surprised. I knew they would not stop until they achieved this abominable outcome. I’ve been awake all night (living in Spain at the moment) with another panic attack, and I’m 54. Nobody can force me to be pregnant now. But because of my life experience, I’m gutted for anyone who can be pregnant.
We must keep fighting. If everyone leaves these states, who will fight? I get that argument.
But I also refuse to return to the theocratic, Christian Taliban world of my upbringing. I fought for 2 decades to deprogram myself and have the life I want. I will not go back. I’m telling young people I love to avoid my state and others like it. I’m preparing to leave for good myself, because I know how bad this will get before it starts to get better.
Sorry this is disjointed. Between hyperventilating, raging and crying, it has been a long night.
We drove from AZ to CA recently and my husband turned to me after we crossed the Colorado River and said, “Oh. Hello. I didn’t see you there. Welcome to a state where you are valued as a whole and complete person.” He was right.
Makes my blood boil! So frustrating! Cruel! Unnecessary! Arrrrgh!!! 🤯
South Carolinian here. I’m devastated.
I’m so tempted to leave, but then who will fight for those who can’t wage the war for themselves? It’s so hard.
Thank you, as always, for your diligent reporting.
I’m so sorry for the women south of the Mason-Dixon Line and west of the Ohio River. PA is the last stop where women are somewhat protected from sexually obsessed men.
This obsession with women’s uterus’s in this day and age is a mental illness.
It’ll be years before women regain bodily autonomy again. I’m 65 and I can’t stand this! Where is the outrage?
While this news came in I was watching the Physicians for Reproductive Healthcare Voices of Courage 2023 awards live stream. The program starts about 29 minutes in. John Oliver speaks about 84 minutes in, but I think even he was struggling a bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luhRCw6ZgHA
I am numb and so sad tonight. I am from South Carolina and have been down there fighting the good fight these last few months. What's just awful is that these men won't bring this up for a referendum, because they know that the majority of South Carolinians are supportive of abortion rights and supportive of health care for women. Women are now second class citizens in the south. How can I ever go back there?
I guess that if the goal is to drive Ob-Gyn’s out of the state, as well as many liberal voters, this is a good way to do it. 🤬
It was always going to get bad. As soon as Roe was gone, it was always, always going to lead to this, to women losing their fertility and their lives and their autonomy. It's what the zealots have wanted for decades. We just have to keep at it, keep protesting, fight the battle state by state. And hopefully, hopefully, the despicable people pushing this cruelty will continue to go too far; we know they can't stop. Yes, women will die; yes, babies will be born to parents that can't take care of them and they will live hard lives in poverty and struggle, and yes, women's dreams and ambitions will be crushed. As soon as they shoved their handmaid onto the court, it was always going to come to this. But I have to have hope that it will outrage people who will turn out to vote in every election, until we have a Congress that will codify Roe and a SCOTUS that sees women as people deserving of rights again. But yes, it's going to get ugly.
Gutted
That's now ten out of eleven former slave states. This is not a coincidence.
Absolutely devastating - "...abortion access will be all but completely eradicated in the South" sent a chill down my spine.
Jesus. I don’t recognize my country anymore. I had no idea how many hateful people we lived among.
I live in SC and have been watching this very closely. My husband and I sat and had a conversation with our 14 year old daughter and have decided, for her safety, to try and find a dr that with give her an IUD. My job is to keep my daughter safe.