Bringing your attention to Kansas HB 2749, which will be heard on Wednesday 2/14. This invasive bill demands that people seeking abortion care rank their top 3 reasons out of 16 listed for getting an abortion, to be reported to the state. Introduced by Rep Ron Bryce on behalf of Kansans for Life. I just want to shake them and say NO MEANS NO! We voted NO on 8/02/22 and we meant it!
Even assuming, for the sake of the argument, that mifipristone was dangerous (of course every intellectually honest person knows that it is an unusually safe drug) the cornerstone of legal regulation of pharmaceuticals is that all drugs carry risks. The question is whether a drug's risks are unreasonable in light of the potential benefits that could be achieved by taking the drug. For decades, Supreme Court precedent has been that you can't sue a pharmaceutical company for harm caused by a prescription medication that was approved by the FDA, because the FDA's expertise is to be relied on. I expect that the Supreme Court is going to rule that no federal agency has the power to regulate anything, but that is that is going to create big trouble for the huge and politically potent pharmaceutical industry. If FDA regulation is meaningless, it won't confer protection on drugs that actually are dangerous.
Another thing to think about in the GOP’s long game to subjugate women. Voting rights. The war on drugs was designed to criminalize and thereby disenfranchise Black people. Felons lose their voting rights while incarcerated and for varying lengths of time after serving their sentences depending on the state. Red states have fought the voters’ will to restore those rights by setting up roadblocks and hoops to jump through. You can bet the war on abortion will be used to disenfranchise women as the GOP moves to criminalize not only abortion but contraception, miscarriage & poor pregnancy outcomes. We cannot allow them to become entrenched.
💯 just listening to Rewire News talk about it (Boom Lawyered podcast) made that clear. Judge Matty K used 98 anonymous blog posts as proof. They are desperate to find anything that might confirm their worldview.
An interesting take on the nexus of climate, population growth, reproductive freedom, and related social and economic factors in the emerging field of planetary health.
Bad link apparently. Google Sings, The Other Doesnt’: Agnès Varda’s revolutionary exploration of reproductive rights. Get back to me if that doesn't work.
Very sensible article. Thank you! The old saying about what happens when we assume seems applicable here. I'm old enough to remember when ZPG was a thing that was discussed and the extreme reaction in China. One extreme is as bad as the other and we need to get a serious discussion on the importance of populations, the environment and rights.
Re: South Carolina. I know Mia McLeod personally (though I haven't seen her in ages and don't want to imply that we're well acquainted.) I'm sure she's proposing this bill as a talking point, because it will fail. Then we'll have another piece of cruelty to point out.
That piece from The Guardian was vomit inducing. All those conservatively indoctrinated young people. If one prays hard enough the bad stuff will just go away or won't happen at all. Really? And what is that Hawkins woman talking about, the "preborn?" The sperm and egg have not even collided yet. Much less implanted into the lining of the uterus. I can almost understand the "life begins at conception" nonsense but the preborn? Woof!
Considering the corrupt SCOTUS will likely rule 8-1 to not disqualify tRump......BIDEN BETTER GET HIS SHIT TOGETHER!! Or just let Kamala do all the talking. He's lucky to have her.
And there will be no Biden/tRump debate for Biden to hammer tRump on abortion. The RNC doesnt trust their unhinged cult leader to debate anything. Dictators do not participate in debates...they give orders.
The Mason Herring story should be front page everywhere! As you say Jessica.... this is all rooted in misogyny.....this case is proof.
It is all rooted in misogyny but also greed and grift. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said something that rang true for me -- that billionaires having captured the SCOTUS are now trying to capture the presidency. trump is their useful idiot (and unsurprisingly, he does not see that he is being used - he could have gone on with his life before 2016 hiding his many crimes but someone stoked his ego enough to make him run).
No doubt tRump is an idiot..... Lol. But tRump is so arrogant and narcissistic he thinks he has the upper hand in every situation. He thinks he's smarter than any other billionaire. His god complex is truly astounding.....he would think what I just wrote was a compliment.....but most certainly not. 😂
I'm not afraid to use the A-word; but I think it might be wise to re-frame the issue by emphasizing the denial of bodily autonomy abortion restrictions and bans bring. Self determination is one of those things Americans imagine is an inalienable right, but half of us have now lost it.
So Biden might feel more comfortable by using language like "medical decisions belong to a patient with advice from a doctor," or "so-called small government advocates want to intrude into personal decisions". Perhaps he might say, "I would never have an abortion, but someone I love might need one. I have the means to assure that happens, but not everyone does."
Finally, I'd love to see every single Democrat who references abortion in any way recite the facts:
91% of abortions occur before 13 weeks gestation
˜8% of abortions occur between 13-21 weeks (often due to roadblocks to care)
˜1% of abortions occur after 21 weeks, usually due to some calamity (it's when scans show abnormalities)
It's this 1% that the RWNJ's shout about as "on demand", "late-term", "partial birth" abortions. No reason for us to accept their use of language to cloak their lies.
Right. And I want them to use clearer language though to help people connect the dots to the consequences.
1. So-called moderates with “15 week” bans are attacking specifically the most vulnerable such as abuse victims, pregnant children, and doomed pregnancies where your health is in danger. This is not what compassion or moderation looks like.
2. The leaders who make up the majority of the anti abortion movement are a threat to anyone with a uterus. These are people writing and proposing all out bans and they are willing to destroy our modern society to get what they want. They are willing to eliminate free speech, interstate travel, health care, health education, birth control eg “the pill”, the right to privacy in your bedroom, and the right to make your own health decisions with your doctor and trusted family. They want all women barefoot uneducated and pregnant and they want to be able to arrest you, your doctor, and the Uber driver who drove you to meet your doctor if you disagree. They are anti-American extremists and we must keep them away from any form of power.
Adding for #2. These extremists want to force everyone to live THEIR version of Christianity. They will topple our freedom of religion to help justify their own life choices.
Thank you for your comment. Yes it would be so affirming if Biden would reframe abortion as something he would support if someone he loved needed one. Thank you ❤️
It’s also this 1% who deal with the most unfortunate of pregnancies gone sideways and legislators want to block them from care because they can sell it to uniformed people. This has been going on for years, even during Roe. I agree with your statement regarding this 1% because it will educate voters why a 15 or 18 or 20 weeks ban is not a compromise. It’s hurtful to a small segment of the population and leads to lifelong consequences.
Re Florida: I would like to know just who paid those petition canvassers. I wouldn’t put it past the anti-abortion crowd to get people to invent petition signatures to undermine the process.
Many of these participants come from religious schools. They haven't been out in the world enough to question what they've been taught. Also, the indoctrinated participants are self-selected, unlikely to be skeptics.
About the South Carolina bill that would "compensate" women who are denied abortions: most of that bill, I can't speak to with any expertise, except to say that women should have choices about our bodies. One thing I *do* know about, in absolutely excruciating detail, is how terribly expensive it is, financially and emotionally, to care for a child--and an adult--with a congenital disability. My guess is that these legislators don't have any idea. Even if they say they'll compensate or assist women who have to care for disabled children or adults, whom they end up caring for because they are denied abortions, they'll low-ball any sort of estimate. The women--and it will almost always be women who will do the labor, let's not forget--will be left hanging. Just one example: how much does 24/7/365 care for a person who has retinopathy of prematurity, severe mental retardation due to birth trauma, and severe physical disability for the same reason cost--in dollars--from birth to, say, age 72? That'd be my older brother. Add in emotional labor, effects on the care of other siblings, wear and tear on the caregivers, and on and on. What about if there's a second child who has a bilateral congenital hip displacia, and multiple other undiagnosed/not understood disabling conditions? (Undiagnosed because medical care for such a person is expensive or unavailable.) That'd be me, now age 71. And a third child, who has severe asthma, to the point that he's in and out of the hospital, from age 1 to age 17? Add in another four kids, two of whom also have disabilities, a parent who lives for 50 years with undiagnosed and untreated PTSD from World War 2, and more--and you get my family. My point is, this is what these legislators want, piled on the backs of the women who are denied abortions. These are the same legislators and "pro-life activists" who crow about how "pro-life" they are, when a family like this is denied food assistance because that parent who is living with PTSD makes one dollar per month "too much". They. Don't. Get. It. "Compensation" never does. This is one of the many reasons that bodily autonomy is so important to me.
My heart goes out to you and I appreciate you sharing. There are so many military service members who came home from Iraq and Afghanistan with PTSD and other medical conditions. Many have not gotten appropriate care because the military health care was completely unprepared during the Bush administration. I share this because, your life and family experience is relevant today. Your story also backs up why the military leaders want their military families to have access to pregnancy and abortion healthcare. Please consider writing legislators. You could make a difference.
My dad was a WW2 Navy vet. He was a pharmacist's mate, cross-trained as a medic, and spent most of the war on ships in the Pacific. I have read that medics like dad were (and, I suppose, still are) at higher risk for PTSD than actual combat vets. Talk about completely unprepared! PTSD wasn't even a *thing* til at least the late-1980s! Back after WW1 it was called "shell-shock." Dad told me that "cowardice" (the post-WW2 term he heard for PTSD) wasn't even considered service-related. He had stories that would make anyone's hair stand on end. Like the time when there was an outbreak of walking pneumonia on board one ship--at a time when there was no treatment, no antibiotics. I remember dad freaking out when I got walking pneumonia in 1998, but didn't understand til he told me about the bodies of dozens of young dead Marines being carried ashore--to be buried in New Zealand, where the ship had to divert. Dad joined the Navy after Pearl Harbor because "the Army was sticky about recruits having to be healthy, but the Navy was taking anyone" including half-blind, left-handed gimps like dad. He was finally diagnosed and got medical and psychiatric treatment for his PTSD in the mid-1990s, a process made more difficult by the fact that he lost his English when he freaked out. (Until then, nobody thought it was important to find French-speaking providers for him. As the oldest kid, and the only native French-speaker, I got to translate, starting at about age 5. Dad was born in the US but brought up speaking French.) So, yeah, there was a lot going on. I can only just imagine how much more difficult it would have been if dad had been female! I have indeed written legislators (state and federal), as well as President Biden, about reproductive rights, treatment of veterans, and the genocide in Gaza. These people often need to be shamed into doing the right thing.
I think forcing the state to subsidize the child bearing of women denied abortions is a poor strategy. We've seen anti-abortionists encouraging pregnant college students not to get abortions by making room on college campuses for child bearing college students. Many anti-abortionists would be all to happy to subsidize child bearing as a strategy to criminalize abortions, especially those who support the social engineering of population dynamics, what they say are declining populations or other social dynamics they disapprove of.
Notice also this kind of posing of leverage does not include the men, but its not hard to see how this would come next. This also interesting in the context of men who apply abortifacients to women without them knowing it or against their will.
Women need to be able to get abortions because they don't want to be pregnant, nobody needs any other reason and nobody should have the temerity to question why. This includes offering her options that presume some knowledge of her circumstances.
I agree with you about women having choice and I would point out that in not helping women who want to continue the pregnancy we are setting ourselves up for attack on the fact that those women who would otherwise continue the pregnancy feel that they have no choice but to abort. We have to have more compassion than that. We have to try to be supportive of people’s life choices. That being said, I prioritize abortion choice over forced pregnancy without hesitation. I just feel for women who would otherwise want that child but face terrible hardship. Our goal should always be to make life better.
The difference is between women who have already decided they do not want to be pregnant and women who have decided they want to be pregnant. If a woman has already decided she does not want to be pregnant, then it does not and should not matter to anyone else why she has made this decision. It is not anyone's place to even consider if she has been forced to get an abortion.
When you impose pregnancy on women for any reason, you compromise anything that anyone should hope for when a woman gets pregnant. But when a woman decides to get pregnant she also imposes the consequences of that pregnancy on the rest of us if there is nothing to be hoped for as a consequence of her decision.
We cannot always be supportive of people's life decisions, but the best we can hope for is that people have the freedom to make those decisions, especially regarding the state of their own bodies. And they should have the knowledge and wisdom to make the correct choices, not driven by anyone's agenda or political point of view.
Bringing your attention to Kansas HB 2749, which will be heard on Wednesday 2/14. This invasive bill demands that people seeking abortion care rank their top 3 reasons out of 16 listed for getting an abortion, to be reported to the state. Introduced by Rep Ron Bryce on behalf of Kansans for Life. I just want to shake them and say NO MEANS NO! We voted NO on 8/02/22 and we meant it!
JFC!
One of the 2 political parties in the U.S. is Stalinesque in its fealty to its dangerous leader. We are in dire straits.
Even assuming, for the sake of the argument, that mifipristone was dangerous (of course every intellectually honest person knows that it is an unusually safe drug) the cornerstone of legal regulation of pharmaceuticals is that all drugs carry risks. The question is whether a drug's risks are unreasonable in light of the potential benefits that could be achieved by taking the drug. For decades, Supreme Court precedent has been that you can't sue a pharmaceutical company for harm caused by a prescription medication that was approved by the FDA, because the FDA's expertise is to be relied on. I expect that the Supreme Court is going to rule that no federal agency has the power to regulate anything, but that is that is going to create big trouble for the huge and politically potent pharmaceutical industry. If FDA regulation is meaningless, it won't confer protection on drugs that actually are dangerous.
Another thing to think about in the GOP’s long game to subjugate women. Voting rights. The war on drugs was designed to criminalize and thereby disenfranchise Black people. Felons lose their voting rights while incarcerated and for varying lengths of time after serving their sentences depending on the state. Red states have fought the voters’ will to restore those rights by setting up roadblocks and hoops to jump through. You can bet the war on abortion will be used to disenfranchise women as the GOP moves to criminalize not only abortion but contraception, miscarriage & poor pregnancy outcomes. We cannot allow them to become entrenched.
On scotus and mifepristone. I doubt SCOTUS will consider the retraction of the articles.
https://www.science.org/content/article/what-s-stake-science-supreme-court-s-abortion-pill-case
💯 just listening to Rewire News talk about it (Boom Lawyered podcast) made that clear. Judge Matty K used 98 anonymous blog posts as proof. They are desperate to find anything that might confirm their worldview.
I hope you're wrong and they will.
About Substack audio.
I’m now getting messages that “audio is still processing Please check back” for >6 hours after a post appears.
So my point is: having an audio for subscribers isn’t the benefit it used to be.
There are posts that went up at 3pm on Friday the 9th that I still can’t listen to & it’s 1:30am Sat the 10th!
An interesting take on the nexus of climate, population growth, reproductive freedom, and related social and economic factors in the emerging field of planetary health.
https://phys.org/news/2024-02-demography-reproductive-rights-environmental-issues.htmlhttps://phys.org/news/2024-02-demography-reproductive-rights-environmental-issues.html
I got an error message and couldn’t read the article.
Bad link apparently. Google Sings, The Other Doesnt’: Agnès Varda’s revolutionary exploration of reproductive rights. Get back to me if that doesn't work.
Pardon my stupidity
Google this
Demography and reproductive rights are environmental issues: Insights from sub-Saharan Africa
Very sensible article. Thank you! The old saying about what happens when we assume seems applicable here. I'm old enough to remember when ZPG was a thing that was discussed and the extreme reaction in China. One extreme is as bad as the other and we need to get a serious discussion on the importance of populations, the environment and rights.
That worked. Thanks!
Re: South Carolina. I know Mia McLeod personally (though I haven't seen her in ages and don't want to imply that we're well acquainted.) I'm sure she's proposing this bill as a talking point, because it will fail. Then we'll have another piece of cruelty to point out.
That piece from The Guardian was vomit inducing. All those conservatively indoctrinated young people. If one prays hard enough the bad stuff will just go away or won't happen at all. Really? And what is that Hawkins woman talking about, the "preborn?" The sperm and egg have not even collided yet. Much less implanted into the lining of the uterus. I can almost understand the "life begins at conception" nonsense but the preborn? Woof!
She's a stupid Bint who is a tool for the patriarchy.
It was truly nauseating
Pence, preborn and zombie 🧟♂️ students. A trifecta of yuck.
Considering the corrupt SCOTUS will likely rule 8-1 to not disqualify tRump......BIDEN BETTER GET HIS SHIT TOGETHER!! Or just let Kamala do all the talking. He's lucky to have her.
And there will be no Biden/tRump debate for Biden to hammer tRump on abortion. The RNC doesnt trust their unhinged cult leader to debate anything. Dictators do not participate in debates...they give orders.
The Mason Herring story should be front page everywhere! As you say Jessica.... this is all rooted in misogyny.....this case is proof.
It is all rooted in misogyny but also greed and grift. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse said something that rang true for me -- that billionaires having captured the SCOTUS are now trying to capture the presidency. trump is their useful idiot (and unsurprisingly, he does not see that he is being used - he could have gone on with his life before 2016 hiding his many crimes but someone stoked his ego enough to make him run).
That would be Steve Bannon, and Putin.
No doubt tRump is an idiot..... Lol. But tRump is so arrogant and narcissistic he thinks he has the upper hand in every situation. He thinks he's smarter than any other billionaire. His god complex is truly astounding.....he would think what I just wrote was a compliment.....but most certainly not. 😂
I'm not afraid to use the A-word; but I think it might be wise to re-frame the issue by emphasizing the denial of bodily autonomy abortion restrictions and bans bring. Self determination is one of those things Americans imagine is an inalienable right, but half of us have now lost it.
So Biden might feel more comfortable by using language like "medical decisions belong to a patient with advice from a doctor," or "so-called small government advocates want to intrude into personal decisions". Perhaps he might say, "I would never have an abortion, but someone I love might need one. I have the means to assure that happens, but not everyone does."
Finally, I'd love to see every single Democrat who references abortion in any way recite the facts:
91% of abortions occur before 13 weeks gestation
˜8% of abortions occur between 13-21 weeks (often due to roadblocks to care)
˜1% of abortions occur after 21 weeks, usually due to some calamity (it's when scans show abnormalities)
It's this 1% that the RWNJ's shout about as "on demand", "late-term", "partial birth" abortions. No reason for us to accept their use of language to cloak their lies.
how to rebut the partial birth fiction.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12294330/
Right. And I want them to use clearer language though to help people connect the dots to the consequences.
1. So-called moderates with “15 week” bans are attacking specifically the most vulnerable such as abuse victims, pregnant children, and doomed pregnancies where your health is in danger. This is not what compassion or moderation looks like.
2. The leaders who make up the majority of the anti abortion movement are a threat to anyone with a uterus. These are people writing and proposing all out bans and they are willing to destroy our modern society to get what they want. They are willing to eliminate free speech, interstate travel, health care, health education, birth control eg “the pill”, the right to privacy in your bedroom, and the right to make your own health decisions with your doctor and trusted family. They want all women barefoot uneducated and pregnant and they want to be able to arrest you, your doctor, and the Uber driver who drove you to meet your doctor if you disagree. They are anti-American extremists and we must keep them away from any form of power.
Adding for #2. These extremists want to force everyone to live THEIR version of Christianity. They will topple our freedom of religion to help justify their own life choices.
Thank you for your comment. Yes it would be so affirming if Biden would reframe abortion as something he would support if someone he loved needed one. Thank you ❤️
It’s also this 1% who deal with the most unfortunate of pregnancies gone sideways and legislators want to block them from care because they can sell it to uniformed people. This has been going on for years, even during Roe. I agree with your statement regarding this 1% because it will educate voters why a 15 or 18 or 20 weeks ban is not a compromise. It’s hurtful to a small segment of the population and leads to lifelong consequences.
Re Florida: I would like to know just who paid those petition canvassers. I wouldn’t put it past the anti-abortion crowd to get people to invent petition signatures to undermine the process.
that's a really good point
"Revenge of the Rednecks". That's what we're living through.
The Guardian documentary is incredible. Also, the women on the still in tan and orange look like the women in The Handmaid's Tale.
And very vapid.
They do! I wondered whether they were counter protestors.
Sadly, I don't think so. I think they're from a particular school. So weird. What amazed me about every interviewee is how *certain* they are.
My Christian nationalist school offered extra credit when we went to protests.
Many of these participants come from religious schools. They haven't been out in the world enough to question what they've been taught. Also, the indoctrinated participants are self-selected, unlikely to be skeptics.
Makes you wonder what they're learning in school (the #1 skill, IMO, is critical thinking).
About the South Carolina bill that would "compensate" women who are denied abortions: most of that bill, I can't speak to with any expertise, except to say that women should have choices about our bodies. One thing I *do* know about, in absolutely excruciating detail, is how terribly expensive it is, financially and emotionally, to care for a child--and an adult--with a congenital disability. My guess is that these legislators don't have any idea. Even if they say they'll compensate or assist women who have to care for disabled children or adults, whom they end up caring for because they are denied abortions, they'll low-ball any sort of estimate. The women--and it will almost always be women who will do the labor, let's not forget--will be left hanging. Just one example: how much does 24/7/365 care for a person who has retinopathy of prematurity, severe mental retardation due to birth trauma, and severe physical disability for the same reason cost--in dollars--from birth to, say, age 72? That'd be my older brother. Add in emotional labor, effects on the care of other siblings, wear and tear on the caregivers, and on and on. What about if there's a second child who has a bilateral congenital hip displacia, and multiple other undiagnosed/not understood disabling conditions? (Undiagnosed because medical care for such a person is expensive or unavailable.) That'd be me, now age 71. And a third child, who has severe asthma, to the point that he's in and out of the hospital, from age 1 to age 17? Add in another four kids, two of whom also have disabilities, a parent who lives for 50 years with undiagnosed and untreated PTSD from World War 2, and more--and you get my family. My point is, this is what these legislators want, piled on the backs of the women who are denied abortions. These are the same legislators and "pro-life activists" who crow about how "pro-life" they are, when a family like this is denied food assistance because that parent who is living with PTSD makes one dollar per month "too much". They. Don't. Get. It. "Compensation" never does. This is one of the many reasons that bodily autonomy is so important to me.
Thank you for sharing this incredibly moving and personal story. I wish the best for you and your family.
My heart goes out to you and I appreciate you sharing. There are so many military service members who came home from Iraq and Afghanistan with PTSD and other medical conditions. Many have not gotten appropriate care because the military health care was completely unprepared during the Bush administration. I share this because, your life and family experience is relevant today. Your story also backs up why the military leaders want their military families to have access to pregnancy and abortion healthcare. Please consider writing legislators. You could make a difference.
My dad was a WW2 Navy vet. He was a pharmacist's mate, cross-trained as a medic, and spent most of the war on ships in the Pacific. I have read that medics like dad were (and, I suppose, still are) at higher risk for PTSD than actual combat vets. Talk about completely unprepared! PTSD wasn't even a *thing* til at least the late-1980s! Back after WW1 it was called "shell-shock." Dad told me that "cowardice" (the post-WW2 term he heard for PTSD) wasn't even considered service-related. He had stories that would make anyone's hair stand on end. Like the time when there was an outbreak of walking pneumonia on board one ship--at a time when there was no treatment, no antibiotics. I remember dad freaking out when I got walking pneumonia in 1998, but didn't understand til he told me about the bodies of dozens of young dead Marines being carried ashore--to be buried in New Zealand, where the ship had to divert. Dad joined the Navy after Pearl Harbor because "the Army was sticky about recruits having to be healthy, but the Navy was taking anyone" including half-blind, left-handed gimps like dad. He was finally diagnosed and got medical and psychiatric treatment for his PTSD in the mid-1990s, a process made more difficult by the fact that he lost his English when he freaked out. (Until then, nobody thought it was important to find French-speaking providers for him. As the oldest kid, and the only native French-speaker, I got to translate, starting at about age 5. Dad was born in the US but brought up speaking French.) So, yeah, there was a lot going on. I can only just imagine how much more difficult it would have been if dad had been female! I have indeed written legislators (state and federal), as well as President Biden, about reproductive rights, treatment of veterans, and the genocide in Gaza. These people often need to be shamed into doing the right thing.
I think forcing the state to subsidize the child bearing of women denied abortions is a poor strategy. We've seen anti-abortionists encouraging pregnant college students not to get abortions by making room on college campuses for child bearing college students. Many anti-abortionists would be all to happy to subsidize child bearing as a strategy to criminalize abortions, especially those who support the social engineering of population dynamics, what they say are declining populations or other social dynamics they disapprove of.
Notice also this kind of posing of leverage does not include the men, but its not hard to see how this would come next. This also interesting in the context of men who apply abortifacients to women without them knowing it or against their will.
Women need to be able to get abortions because they don't want to be pregnant, nobody needs any other reason and nobody should have the temerity to question why. This includes offering her options that presume some knowledge of her circumstances.
I agree with you about women having choice and I would point out that in not helping women who want to continue the pregnancy we are setting ourselves up for attack on the fact that those women who would otherwise continue the pregnancy feel that they have no choice but to abort. We have to have more compassion than that. We have to try to be supportive of people’s life choices. That being said, I prioritize abortion choice over forced pregnancy without hesitation. I just feel for women who would otherwise want that child but face terrible hardship. Our goal should always be to make life better.
The difference is between women who have already decided they do not want to be pregnant and women who have decided they want to be pregnant. If a woman has already decided she does not want to be pregnant, then it does not and should not matter to anyone else why she has made this decision. It is not anyone's place to even consider if she has been forced to get an abortion.
When you impose pregnancy on women for any reason, you compromise anything that anyone should hope for when a woman gets pregnant. But when a woman decides to get pregnant she also imposes the consequences of that pregnancy on the rest of us if there is nothing to be hoped for as a consequence of her decision.
We cannot always be supportive of people's life decisions, but the best we can hope for is that people have the freedom to make those decisions, especially regarding the state of their own bodies. And they should have the knowledge and wisdom to make the correct choices, not driven by anyone's agenda or political point of view.