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I'm so pissed! Home for Thanksgiving and I see a "Pro-Life Across America" billboard in the parking lot of our local shopping center -- in fucking San Francisco!! If it were a red state I wouldn't be surprised, but WTF? Just had to vent. Hope y all have a good Turkey/Indigenous People day tomorrow.

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Maybe sneak out and throw rotten tomatoes at it later when it gets dark? Just kidding.

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Nov 22, 2023·edited Nov 22, 2023

Something strange is happening. There are a bunch of seemingly liberal b/millionaires propping up the malevolent forces behind trump and trump (see https://twitter.com/JaneMayerNYer/status/1727320183910420631) -- HP, Omidyar, the eBay guy...Why? Maddow's segment this week showed horrors for ordinary people in Russia, China, and others and frankly, there should be more of that talked about and shown about when America becomes China-like or worse, Russia. Why would anybody want that for their own country? In my 35 years in this country, I have seen the country fall so fast that it is mind boggling.

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Could you give a synopsis on that tweet, many of us either don't have, or have left the twitter forum, because we don't support a hate-speech site.

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Tweet is referring to this article: https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-group-accidentally-reveals-its-secret-donors-some-of-them-are-liberal-orgs

"A conservative nonprofit tied to a controversial “White House-in-waiting” for a second Donald Trump presidency has apparently unintentionally revealed its top donors—and two of them are foundations famously associated with liberal causes." I think this is called Project 2025?

PS. you can click on the link to see what it is without the app but of course, don't click if you don't want to support. By and large, Twitter was working very well for liberal/Democratic discourse and I said Musk was going to disrupt it when he bought it and he has. I have an account that I don't use to tweet but to look at few chosen tweeters. There was a time when you could just see it on the web without an account, now you need an account to see the full/long feed.

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Every Republican from local dog catcher to United States federal government must be voted out of office. It’ll percolate down to where only MAGAs vote for these criminals and that’s nowhere near enough votes to keep the crime syndicate that used to be the GOP in power. Read Thom Hartmann’s newsletter on why we continue to tolerate illegally elected Republican Presidents. Beginning with Nixon, none of them have any intention of keeping America a democracy. Not senators, state representatives, governors or mayors. None.

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If it were me, I would not trust medical personnel outside of Planned Parenthood if I were pregnant and seeking care or advice in a state with a ban. Maybe if it's someone you know personally or have a long-term relationship with - I'd say not worth the risk otherwise.

Can't remember if it was here or elsewhere, but I recall reading online recently that medical personnel were the most likely to turn you in for abortion "crimes".

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Mother Jones magazine reported that, as well as maybe elsewhere.

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Can you help me understand exactly how the Ohio Constitution Change will work? Maybe foolishly I thought that local prosecutors would stop bringing cases against women and doctors who exercised their reproductive rights. Isnt that how it should work? But now I hear that cases will still have to be brought to the Ohio Supreme Court for ajudication. What gives?

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The laws on the books don't automatically go away. In a sane world, everyone would agree what the clear text of the Ohio constitution now says, and so those laws would be ignored. If the state wants to try to enforce one of them, or pass a new one, you would sue in state court and say it violates the constitution. And the final arbiter of the state constitution is the state supreme court. If that court wants to construe the state constitution to mean something different from what it obviously does, the only recourse is to vote out those justices. At least in Ohio they're elected. In a state like Florida they are not, so the only recourse becomes voting out the Republicans in the legislative and executive branches. But there are a lot of voters who are pro-choice but agree with the Republicans on most everything else, and that's the reason Republicans are able to get away with this in red states. If they can't change the party, and they won't leave the party, there really aren't any other options under our system of government.

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Well, considering this shit from elsewhere in the newsletter where the governor has womb wide authority:

Any Iowa hospital or clinic seeking Medicaid payment for providing an abortion would need approval from the state’s most prominent abortion opponent: Gov. Kim Reynolds.

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Thank you and Grace for all you do. It's invaluable.

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citizen-led initiatives is something that I've been thinking about lately. Can anyone educate me about the states that don't have that option. Is there any hope for recourse?

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Women who get pregnant in Texas are taking an awful risk with their lives. It's smarter to move out at least temporarily.

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This is one area where I think the left could do a lot more good work. Yes, we are providing life-saving and life-changing funds for out-of-state abortions, but I wish we gave more thought to how to help people leave permanently.

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I suspect the cost of housing is the biggest obstacle. It tends to be higher in blue areas, which would make sense because they are better places to live. I get very frustrated by talk of 'affordable housing'. We don't get to decide whether housing is affordable; supply and demand does that. The only way to fix housing costs is to build more housing, lots more. It might be the single best thing we could do for the economy. But in a democracy, those who already have, fight harder to maintain their privilege, than do those who would gain from change, even though the latter group is much larger. It's protectionism and it's a problem everywhere else in the economy too. Worse is it seems to be something both parties are coming to agree on, so it's hard to be hopeful.

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Red states are like underdeveloped countries - a dollar goes a long way.

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No always a viable option though. Especially for the most needed.

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